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	<title>Comments on: Ding Dong the photoshop only web designer should be dead</title>
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		<title>By: deegeejay</title>
		<link>http://www.diaryofawebsite.com/blog/2008/06/ding-dong-the-photoshop-only-web-designer-should-be-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-151881</link>
		<dc:creator>deegeejay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(full disclosure: playing the devil&#039;s advocate) I have a different take. 99% of what web designers do is so unnecessary it isn&#039;t even funny. You might want to turn your critical faculties toward your own emerging industry. Spinning, gif flame skulls are still just spinning gif flame skulls even if they are &quot;coded&quot; in ruby on rails. Try explaining why every joe client needs a blog or cms? A huge waste of time and money worthy of the internet bubble days if you ask me. Until you start respecting communication, a good print designer will be able to beat you with a single well kerned splash page. Maybe you should all be forced to read some Edward Tufte before you are unleashed on unsuspecting clients? 

Boom baby  . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(full disclosure: playing the devil&#8217;s advocate) I have a different take. 99% of what web designers do is so unnecessary it isn&#8217;t even funny. You might want to turn your critical faculties toward your own emerging industry. Spinning, gif flame skulls are still just spinning gif flame skulls even if they are &#8220;coded&#8221; in ruby on rails. Try explaining why every joe client needs a blog or cms? A huge waste of time and money worthy of the internet bubble days if you ask me. Until you start respecting communication, a good print designer will be able to beat you with a single well kerned splash page. Maybe you should all be forced to read some Edward Tufte before you are unleashed on unsuspecting clients? </p>
<p>Boom baby  . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you cannot code perfect HTML, CSS and Javascript then you are not fit to call yourself a web designer, end of story. You are a student who is learning or needs to learn. We are professionals. It takes time, skill and dedication to master the disciplines you need in order to call yourself a web professional in any part of the field.

If you do graphic design, then great, you are a graphic designer. But without solid web technology experience under your belt, that is all you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you cannot code perfect HTML, CSS and Javascript then you are not fit to call yourself a web designer, end of story. You are a student who is learning or needs to learn. We are professionals. It takes time, skill and dedication to master the disciplines you need in order to call yourself a web professional in any part of the field.</p>
<p>If you do graphic design, then great, you are a graphic designer. But without solid web technology experience under your belt, that is all you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Web Design Manager</title>
		<link>http://www.diaryofawebsite.com/blog/2008/06/ding-dong-the-photoshop-only-web-designer-should-be-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-105643</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Design Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Photoshop is good for pictures but not for the whole web site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Photoshop is good for pictures but not for the whole web site.</p>
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		<title>By: Web Design Bournemouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web Design Bournemouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the vast majority of what you have written. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the vast majority of what you have written. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: diseno-web-vizcaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>diseno-web-vizcaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Photoshop is a good tool but you cannot do a whole website with photoshop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Photoshop is a good tool but you cannot do a whole website with photoshop.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 14:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who does web design in his spare time, I find it mind-boggling that people can learn how to be great at graphics but know next to nothing about the hard code and call themselves &#039;web designers&#039;. Maybe I am indeed an amateur who&#039;s missing the point here, but isn&#039;t functionality (code that actually *works*) and clarity more important than looking flashy? Do some pros actually think like that?!

I suppose CSS has separated the structure and appearance of code but I think the points you raise here are no less important than they used to be. If anything, it&#039;s more important - as the web expands and connection speeds allow for increasingly graphic-rich pages with flash animations and whatnot, it must be tempting to make pretty, eye-catching pages with W3C valid HTML as an afterthought. Personally, I wouldn&#039;t have known where to start when designing my own Wordpress theme unless I felt confident in knowing what those header, list and paragraph tags actually do!

Anyway, it&#039;s an interesting blog you have here - I was looking for a design-centric site to add to my feedreader. (:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who does web design in his spare time, I find it mind-boggling that people can learn how to be great at graphics but know next to nothing about the hard code and call themselves &#8216;web designers&#8217;. Maybe I am indeed an amateur who&#8217;s missing the point here, but isn&#8217;t functionality (code that actually *works*) and clarity more important than looking flashy? Do some pros actually think like that?!</p>
<p>I suppose CSS has separated the structure and appearance of code but I think the points you raise here are no less important than they used to be. If anything, it&#8217;s more important &#8211; as the web expands and connection speeds allow for increasingly graphic-rich pages with flash animations and whatnot, it must be tempting to make pretty, eye-catching pages with W3C valid HTML as an afterthought. Personally, I wouldn&#8217;t have known where to start when designing my own Wordpress theme unless I felt confident in knowing what those header, list and paragraph tags actually do!</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s an interesting blog you have here &#8211; I was looking for a design-centric site to add to my feedreader. (:</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I have a different scope, I have posted my reply over &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sleekandsexy.net/web-designers-html-css/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I have a different scope, I have posted my reply over <a href="http://www.sleekandsexy.net/web-designers-html-css/" rel="nofollow">here</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Should web designers do their own HTML/CSS? //SLEEKANDSEXY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Should web designers do their own HTML/CSS? //SLEEKANDSEXY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reading this post I wanted to post a comment, but as I began writing it sort of grew into a post by itself, so here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reading this post I wanted to post a comment, but as I began writing it sort of grew into a post by itself, so here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ideiadigital &#187; Designer Web/Designer</title>
		<link>http://www.diaryofawebsite.com/blog/2008/06/ding-dong-the-photoshop-only-web-designer-should-be-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-64500</link>
		<dc:creator>ideiadigital &#187; Designer Web/Designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] No começo de junho, David Heinemeier Hansson, escreveu no Signal Vs. Noise, o blog da 37Signals, um excelente post defendendo a idéia de que o designer deve ser o responsável pela implementação dos layouts que faz. Durante alguns dias pensei em postar sobre isso, contando minhas experiências, como designer, como implementador e como designer+implementador+programador ou webfaztudo. Posterguei esse post até hoje, quando li um outro excelente texto no Diary of a Web Site, Ding Dong the photoshop only web designer should be dead. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] No começo de junho, David Heinemeier Hansson, escreveu no Signal Vs. Noise, o blog da 37Signals, um excelente post defendendo a idéia de que o designer deve ser o responsável pela implementação dos layouts que faz. Durante alguns dias pensei em postar sobre isso, contando minhas experiências, como designer, como implementador e como designer+implementador+programador ou webfaztudo. Posterguei esse post até hoje, quando li um outro excelente texto no Diary of a Web Site, Ding Dong the photoshop only web designer should be dead. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: es_id</title>
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		<dc:creator>es_id</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most Web designers have no clue about design or how to innovate and push the usability of the web/app interfaces forward.Yes they can code a design but its a given that a website will be technically good. Great design is the only factor that seperates different websites and brands.A fantastic design is technically possible if you work with a great coder who know s there tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most Web designers have no clue about design or how to innovate and push the usability of the web/app interfaces forward.Yes they can code a design but its a given that a website will be technically good. Great design is the only factor that seperates different websites and brands.A fantastic design is technically possible if you work with a great coder who know s there tools.</p>
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