Just because you can hit a button doesn’t make you a web designer

Be warned rant coming (awoga and other warning sounds / lights should be considered going on)…..

I have about had it up to my pixels with the rash of so called ‘web designers’ whose only knowledge of code is what programs like Photoshop or Fireworks spew out. Let me make this very clear for those people, it’s really not hard to get your minds around:

‘just because you can hit a button to create code DOES NOT make you a web designer’. It makes you a button pusher.

Now, don’t throw things at my head thinking I am saying it’s one of the evil web sins to use such exporting. If you are doing it for your own site and not claiming you are a web designer then fair dos, I may not like the code they often produce but what you do in your back yard is your own call. This isn’t aimed at the amateur, it’s aimed at the cowboys that proclaim they are web designers like it’s some kudos title and then vomit out code through one button pressing. Those that pitch for web designer jobs but don’t know anymore about web design than I do about garden design. I kill plants (I’ve been banned from having plants due to planticide) and they are killing websites.

Sliced by rage

It has gotten to the point if I see one more spur wearing wannabes work with the tell tale comment in the code of sliced by [insert code button pushing of choice here], I think I am going to go to said person’s door and ask them if they also do plumbing as they obviously know about as much about that as they do about web design. Yes, there is a school of thought that proclaims you don’t have to know code to be a web designer - I disagree. Just like being a good designer of anything you have to know what you are designing in. Even the most basic amateurs I know online are doing their best to get to grips with code - so why do we still have yee ha spur wearing muppets putting button pushed sites online offering button pushing code?

Quality on one medium != quality on all

From what I see one of the biggest problems is designers in other mediums thinking they can instantly work on the web and/or people seeing pound signs about the web. It’s easy money, any fool can do it.. right? Oh where to start in spewing back venom at those thoughts… I don’t proclaim I can design houses, I don’t proclaim I can design kitchens, I don’t proclaim I can design furniture. Why? Well, to start I don’t know about any of these things so unless you are really the possessor of such a swollen head you find door ways a problem, why don’t you just admit you don’t know and stop taking jobs away from those of us that do. If you want to do web design then at least have the balls to learn something about the medium. Yes, you may get one or two clients - maybe more if they are unlucky enough to not know what repulsions you are creating. Wow they look pretty don’t they… if you use a 10mb sonic the hedgehog zooped up super duper internet connection and only using one browser (just don’t tell them they can use more than one - that would give the secret away wouldn’t it). Your client is happy, that’s great. Let them see a proper web designer and I think you will find them less happy. Oh that’s right, we shouldn’t tell them that as that would expose you for the fraud you are! As they say in the west country… “get off me land”.

Spreading the word

The big problem is clients don’t know the difference. Why should they? It’s us the web designers who actually slave away getting sites to work without tables, to standards and chip away at our brains to get them working on as many browsers as we can; that should point these people out. I think every web designer out there who doesn’t push a button and proclaim “website” has come across these fakes. If we are honest being a web designer is a hard career - you can easily stress out yourself just by trying to validate a website. We’ve all worked hard to get where we are so why should we stand by and let these people take our work? It’s hard enough to make a career in the over crowded field without having to educate clients and loose contracts to button pushing idiots who attach the title of web designer as they think it’s ‘cool’. Usually I may add for much more money than the actual hard working web designers charge - odd but true in several cases I’ve found recently.

Enough ranting, do you have a solution?

Ok, you got me on that… I don’t really have a solution to this and believe me my blood pressure wishes I did. I guess it comes down to educating those you have reach of and gradually the word will spread - it just seems to be taking a bit too long for my sanity. There are times I think ‘phew’ it’s getting there and then bamn! a client comes to me with something from the button monkeys. Yes, the client is coming to someone that actually can do the job - that sort of isn’t the point. I may be getting the work but surely it should be before NOT after the event. The client is not getting a good deal out of this as they usually have to pay twice. I feel sorry for the client every-time I get this that someone has taken advantage of them in this way. Yes, saying you can do something and obviously not doing to any standard is taking advantage. There is no real solution, sadly. All you can do is educate those you come into contact with and as a proper web designer stand by your values - however frustrating that may be.

21 Responses to “Just because you can hit a button doesn’t make you a web designer”

What about designers who can’t code worth a hill of beans but still design stuff for the web?

I use the ‘click a button’ slicing tool in photoshop to get my design out there so then I can have my design visually while I save my pennies to be able to pay the $$$ cost of having someone code my design.

Am I ever going to claim that I am able to code? No.

But I definitely design things for the web.

I agree with you, but to a point I feel like you’re lumping everyone who can’t code into a big basket of losers.

I’m inclined to agree with Daniel. I couldn’t design a site if I was getting payed 6 figures. I could code it, but not design it. The only reason I make a living is because my boss is one of those people who can’t code a bit. There is a place for everyone, as long as they don’t claim to be a one man team.

@Daniel Nicolas: I wasn’t lumping as I said that I was not including people that weren’t stnading up and saying they were a web designer and pitching for jobs. I’m talking about those that offer sites and claim they are done in x or y when simply aren’t. If they don’t know about code then they can’t stand up and call themselves a web professional. I am sure this is a point many will argue against me. I just end up clearing up the mess a lot of the time - like most web designers do. It is frustrating to say the least.

@Justin Lilly: But you can code so this wasn’t aimed at all at you was it? Surely what I am saying would mean more work for those that do just code and have bothered to do it. Fair enough work with a coder if you have to do a site. I also still wander how you can produce a good site if you don’t know anything of code.

I knew this one was going to be a point of contention, it is after all only my feelings but I do stand by them. I still think if you are going to produce websites you need to know the code behind to make a valid working site that will be any good for a client. You are welcome to disagree of course.

I think that it is important to understand that a web designer’s skillset is not limited to the computer. I’d bet my house* that the majority of skills that make a great designer are in the head. It’s in the process, conceptualisation and understanding of the media.

A ‘web designer’ that relies on some slicing software is probably lacking in these skills. I think it’s important to understand the code to actually create a design in Photoshop.

* Not legally binding. I live in a flat. ;)

I feel your pain. I’ve seen many sites made in WYSIWYG tools that look pretty, or may be very flashy (or FLASH-y, meaning the entire site is one web page and a big .SWF file) but still say things like “Best viewed in Internet Explorer at 800×600.” Upon resizing my browser to that resolution, I see it doesn’t fit there anyhow.

I know that there are many wonderful designers out there, but many of them don’t seem to understand the medium of the web. Just as a painter may not necessarily be able to sculpt, a print designer who makes wonderful brochures and posters may not understand user interaction, usability, accessibility, or information architecture.

I design. I code by hand. I get beat out on price all the time by folks who can’t do either.

I hear exactly what you are saying and think it most of the time myself.

Just as bad are the customer’s who would rather just have the ‘button’ pushing work since they need it designed and coded and live on 20 pages in less than 48 hours and don’t care at all about what’s under the hood.

I simply had to comment and say that this was the first time I had ever seen the “warning sound” written as “awoga”. I love it.

I couldn’t agree more. What’s worse is that a lot of people are being taught to be button-pushers in educational institutions today. I find it appalling when I have to pull one of these people aside and say, “Look, there’s a whole ‘nother world out there that you aren’t seeing. Tables died almost a decade ago.”. It is incredibly difficult to educate these people, too - since to them there’s no difference between your beautiful, maintainable and cross-browser compatible CSS and Javascript and their shoddy table based button-pushed design.

Hmmm….I can ‘push button’ code and my friend is a graphic designer…together we are….’WEB DESIGNERS!’

No?

Oh OK, I will stick to my day job.

A lot of my clients have been duped into ‘e-commerce web design’ by controlling cowboy companies who claim to be great. In reality its oscommerce and a cheap skin. This is the area which is getting a bit of a bad rep in the UK anyway.

In all fairness, if I got fed up with my crap attempts at design and decided to invest money and go pro, I would be too scared that I would look at the code and go ‘Damn I could have done that’ and bribed some talented friends with haribo to do the graphics.

Soon bona fide web designers are going to be lumped in with the charlatans.

I agree with you. But I try not to search (project) my anger or frustration on the outside. On the long run quality rules - also for the customers. Plus: word of mouth of satisfied customers are the best ad - not the website with: ‘will do the job in 2 days with all you need, even the things I don’t know, they’re done within 48 hours’. I am not the genious coder but I try (these days even harder) to at least grab the basics and give the job to my partner when it gets really tricky. I love the customer who says: ‘but I found someone who does my site for $400′ - I happily let them go into their mediocre web-thinggies and wait. Some return and pay even more, others don’t want more than a single jpg which is clickable for email :-)

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I’ve had the same problem as Christy: people think they know about websites simply because they use the Internet.

I have had a few clients who have used a cheaper designer (usually a ‘friend’/'nephew’ etc), only to find their site a few months later (with much difficulty): a JPEG sitting on a page, usually with no ‘alt’ text. Makes me smile inside!

WOW! I’ve never ehard such whining! There are some really amazing web sites out there with generated code. I think being a web designer requires much more than knowing code. I have looked at many sites that realy, realy sucked but had flawless code. What good is that? In the end, you better be impressing the customer visiting the web site, they are the ones with the money for YOUR CLIENT. You better impress them in 30 seconds or less and they honestly don’t care how your code came to be.

If you read this you’d see I was not claiming code is the only thing that makes a web designer. Code though is an important part of being a web designer just like other design skills. Clients of course are important, I run my own business and soon wouldn’t if I saw clients as not important. I think you will find they do care how the site works and what it does which you will only get a high standard of if you do not just push a button.

My clients get bored when I start talking about things like web standards, xhtml, css, etc. They want a website that looks great, performs well in the search engines, and gets them new customers. They could care less how it was created. My background is in print design. So, I know a few things about graphic art. I’m not a great web developer. There are some decent WYSIWYG web editors out there. I can barely type twenty words a minute, but I try hard to create sites that comply with W3C standards, are optimized for search engines, and look professional. The end result is a handful of websites that have attracted lots of new business for my clients and repeat business for me. I simply have to edit HTML code, CSS, Javascript, PERL and other web languages in order to stay in business.

Web designing was always meant to be the two edged sword, problematic dragon of internet savvy people right from the word go! Because we separated the content, from the way the content is being presented on internet web pages it now falls on those that are knowledgable in either of which to determine how they make a living in an inreasingly competitive market. I am pleased to say the I have an eye for art, and since i am enthusiastic I am pursuing an informal education in teaching myself ‘code’ as one puts it. But I have to say, as the web starts to reflect the way we live on the getgo, more and more people will opt for the eye candy produced in lesser time than knowing the sweetening agents in the broth. With works like Dreamweaver coming up and fireworks, ladies and gentlemen, we’re welcoming the future of web design on the go.

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